Friday, March 18, 2011
Thursday, March 17, 2011
Saturday, March 5, 2011
Trenton Regional, Saturday
Hi everyone!
So, everyone who was at the Trenton Regional seemed to have lots of fun. It was great to see LogoMotion in action, plus Bart Kamen (Dean's brother) was there talking about their late father Jack Kamen.
So onto details about today.
1) One team in particular really shined today. Team 2016 was doing wonderful today. In the third match of today (I didn't catch the match number), they were a main contributer to 3 logos that the alliance made, plus they were the first minibot up the tower. Then, in match 75, they hung 3 tubes and were the first minibot again. In match 81, first minibot again, but this time they hung 6 tubes (including oober). Their minibot took approximately 3 seconds to get up the tower. That match had a score of 79-23, with 2016 being on the winning alliance. They are not going to be at Chesapeake or Philly. As of right now, they are not registered for Nationals either. But I would be on the lookout...
2) 303 had a telescope similar to ours, however it was slower than ours and once their trolley started to go up, it looked very twitchy. During one match they also didn't seem to have much of a plan. Team 25 had a very fast telescope that was tall. When they would go to hang on the top rack, their mast was about half a foot above the middle peg and the trolley could easily go up with no problem.
3) We need to be careful about red cards and yellow cards. During the quarter finals, the 2nd seeded alliance got a red card for entering the blue alliance zone and pushed into a robot that was hanging. Because of that, they were disqualified. If they hadn't gotten the red card, they would have won that match. During the same match, the 7th alliance got a yellow card for deploying their minibot outside the tower zone. Alliance 3 got two yellow cards during one match for a) deplying their minibot before the 15 seconds and b) placing an oober tube during teleop. Drive team and back up drive team: make sure you know all the penalties and how to get a red and yellow card so we can avoid making those mistakes.
4) As Christian said yesterday, most alliances were only placing a few tubes, and not many had minibots. The most logos I saw today for an alliance was 4, and I saw that twice. I saw a total of 3 minibots go up about 5 or 6 times. So while the majority of the teams weren't scoring a whole lot, there were some matches that were definitely one sided. That being said, today the National High Score was beaten and then tied today. During the first quarter final match for alliances 3 & 8, the 3rd alliance got 124 points while the 8th alliance got only 22. And then in the first smi final between 1 and 5, the 1st alliance got 124 points while the 5th got 36.
5) During the 2nd match for quarter finals for the 5th alliance, team 816 lost their minibot on the field at one point and it started running around the field. While it was amusing to watch, teams losing minibots during teleop was a common thing. They would also lose them when they were trying to deploy them on the pole. We need to make sure we don't lost our minibot when we are competing.
For those who weren't there, here is a list of the 8 alliances:
1) 1676, 2016, 303
2) 423, 486, 293
3) 1923, 25, 1860
4) 1228, 2590, 75
5) 2180, 816, 1302
6) 1089, 1647, 102
7) 2729, 1218, 192
8) 2191, 181, 2199
Alliances 1 and 7 made it to the Finals. Alliance 1 won. Of those two alliances, 1218 is going to Chesapeake, 2729 is going to Philly, and 303 is going to Nationals. I would not be surprised if 1676 and 2016 make an appearance at Nationals as well though.
Hope everyone had a wonderful day, whether it was spent in Trenton or elsewhere. Only 12 more days until our own regional begins!
-Sam
So, everyone who was at the Trenton Regional seemed to have lots of fun. It was great to see LogoMotion in action, plus Bart Kamen (Dean's brother) was there talking about their late father Jack Kamen.
So onto details about today.
1) One team in particular really shined today. Team 2016 was doing wonderful today. In the third match of today (I didn't catch the match number), they were a main contributer to 3 logos that the alliance made, plus they were the first minibot up the tower. Then, in match 75, they hung 3 tubes and were the first minibot again. In match 81, first minibot again, but this time they hung 6 tubes (including oober). Their minibot took approximately 3 seconds to get up the tower. That match had a score of 79-23, with 2016 being on the winning alliance. They are not going to be at Chesapeake or Philly. As of right now, they are not registered for Nationals either. But I would be on the lookout...
2) 303 had a telescope similar to ours, however it was slower than ours and once their trolley started to go up, it looked very twitchy. During one match they also didn't seem to have much of a plan. Team 25 had a very fast telescope that was tall. When they would go to hang on the top rack, their mast was about half a foot above the middle peg and the trolley could easily go up with no problem.
3) We need to be careful about red cards and yellow cards. During the quarter finals, the 2nd seeded alliance got a red card for entering the blue alliance zone and pushed into a robot that was hanging. Because of that, they were disqualified. If they hadn't gotten the red card, they would have won that match. During the same match, the 7th alliance got a yellow card for deploying their minibot outside the tower zone. Alliance 3 got two yellow cards during one match for a) deplying their minibot before the 15 seconds and b) placing an oober tube during teleop. Drive team and back up drive team: make sure you know all the penalties and how to get a red and yellow card so we can avoid making those mistakes.
4) As Christian said yesterday, most alliances were only placing a few tubes, and not many had minibots. The most logos I saw today for an alliance was 4, and I saw that twice. I saw a total of 3 minibots go up about 5 or 6 times. So while the majority of the teams weren't scoring a whole lot, there were some matches that were definitely one sided. That being said, today the National High Score was beaten and then tied today. During the first quarter final match for alliances 3 & 8, the 3rd alliance got 124 points while the 8th alliance got only 22. And then in the first smi final between 1 and 5, the 1st alliance got 124 points while the 5th got 36.
5) During the 2nd match for quarter finals for the 5th alliance, team 816 lost their minibot on the field at one point and it started running around the field. While it was amusing to watch, teams losing minibots during teleop was a common thing. They would also lose them when they were trying to deploy them on the pole. We need to make sure we don't lost our minibot when we are competing.
For those who weren't there, here is a list of the 8 alliances:
1) 1676, 2016, 303
2) 423, 486, 293
3) 1923, 25, 1860
4) 1228, 2590, 75
5) 2180, 816, 1302
6) 1089, 1647, 102
7) 2729, 1218, 192
8) 2191, 181, 2199
Alliances 1 and 7 made it to the Finals. Alliance 1 won. Of those two alliances, 1218 is going to Chesapeake, 2729 is going to Philly, and 303 is going to Nationals. I would not be surprised if 1676 and 2016 make an appearance at Nationals as well though.
Hope everyone had a wonderful day, whether it was spent in Trenton or elsewhere. Only 12 more days until our own regional begins!
-Sam
Friday, March 4, 2011
Trenton Regional, Friday
Hey all,
Here are just a few thoughts from viewing Trenton today.
1. uber tubes are double points alone, then they act as multipliers seperately, this means that a logo on top with an uber tube is 30 points, in the middle is 20, on bottom is 10, a logo with two uber tubes on top is 42, and a logo with three uber tubes on top is 54 points!
2. Only 5 minibots climbed the pole: only one match had two minibots climb.
3. The average minibot climbed in 10-15 seconds, the fastest was around 4 or 5 seconds.
4. The average number tubes placed by single robots was 1 or 2, The average number of tubes placed by an alliance was 3 or 4, the highest number of tubes placed by one robot was 6, the highest number of tubes placed by an alliacne was 9.
5. The average final score was 10-15, The highest score was 80, the second highest was 74, almost every match was won with a final score of 20 or less.
6. Very few matches did human players throw tubes many at a time, most matches teams went to the feeding station or threw one or two tubes at a time onto the field.
7. Most robots had slow arm, most robots had slow claw/tube manipulators, most manipulators dropped their tubes very easily.
8. The field was having some slight trouble connecting to robots, but it mostly just delayed matches it never interfered with gameplay.
9. Most teams fropped their minibots early or missed during deployment and were assessed penalties.
10. Penalites were common for minibots and lane infringement, but penalties did not decide matches.
11. Most tubes were scored on the top or middle row, no tubes were scored on the bottom.
12. Only two defense robots all day.
13. The minibots are given a 10 second grace period to come to rest/score after time reaches 0.
14. Here is a list of standout teams with reasons:
2016 had the highest solo score with a minibot and 6 tubes on top in logo form and an uber tube (my personal favorite to win NJ regional)
25 has a lightning fast telescope but has a slow inside tube manipulator which slows them down to only 3-4 tubes per match
486 scored several tubes and scored one of the few minibots of the day (This team will be at Philly)
1302 scored a minibot
1676 scored a minibot
1860 did good, solid autonomous follows line, placed 3-4 tubes, and has a minibot (second favorite to win NJ regional)
1647 did good logo on top with uber tube (will be at philly)
1218 did good logo plus one on top with uber tube (will be at chesapeake)
816 did ok with 3 tubes on top in logo form (will be at philly)
102 did ok with 3 tubes on top in logo form (will be at philly)
I also have a video that is a trailer of some of the better teams and matches (i did not get the 80 point match, but i got the 74 point match)
-Christian
Here are just a few thoughts from viewing Trenton today.
1. uber tubes are double points alone, then they act as multipliers seperately, this means that a logo on top with an uber tube is 30 points, in the middle is 20, on bottom is 10, a logo with two uber tubes on top is 42, and a logo with three uber tubes on top is 54 points!
2. Only 5 minibots climbed the pole: only one match had two minibots climb.
3. The average minibot climbed in 10-15 seconds, the fastest was around 4 or 5 seconds.
4. The average number tubes placed by single robots was 1 or 2, The average number of tubes placed by an alliance was 3 or 4, the highest number of tubes placed by one robot was 6, the highest number of tubes placed by an alliacne was 9.
5. The average final score was 10-15, The highest score was 80, the second highest was 74, almost every match was won with a final score of 20 or less.
6. Very few matches did human players throw tubes many at a time, most matches teams went to the feeding station or threw one or two tubes at a time onto the field.
7. Most robots had slow arm, most robots had slow claw/tube manipulators, most manipulators dropped their tubes very easily.
8. The field was having some slight trouble connecting to robots, but it mostly just delayed matches it never interfered with gameplay.
9. Most teams fropped their minibots early or missed during deployment and were assessed penalties.
10. Penalites were common for minibots and lane infringement, but penalties did not decide matches.
11. Most tubes were scored on the top or middle row, no tubes were scored on the bottom.
12. Only two defense robots all day.
13. The minibots are given a 10 second grace period to come to rest/score after time reaches 0.
14. Here is a list of standout teams with reasons:
2016 had the highest solo score with a minibot and 6 tubes on top in logo form and an uber tube (my personal favorite to win NJ regional)
25 has a lightning fast telescope but has a slow inside tube manipulator which slows them down to only 3-4 tubes per match
486 scored several tubes and scored one of the few minibots of the day (This team will be at Philly)
1302 scored a minibot
1676 scored a minibot
1860 did good, solid autonomous follows line, placed 3-4 tubes, and has a minibot (second favorite to win NJ regional)
1647 did good logo on top with uber tube (will be at philly)
1218 did good logo plus one on top with uber tube (will be at chesapeake)
816 did ok with 3 tubes on top in logo form (will be at philly)
102 did ok with 3 tubes on top in logo form (will be at philly)
I also have a video that is a trailer of some of the better teams and matches (i did not get the 80 point match, but i got the 74 point match)
-Christian
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